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Posted by /u/sworththebold

To add some additional detail to u/MrawzbaoZedong ‘s response, I’ll point out that the resources Japan wanted very badly were those in the Dutch East Indies, namely oil and rubber. They already had access to iron and other minerals because of their conquest of Manchuria, but were not producing those resources yet in sufficient quantities. To prosecute their we with China, Japan had been receiving most of what they needed from the US; but that had recently stopped. They could not accept ideologically to stop their war with China, as has already been pointed out, and with the US embargo they were running out of resources.

From the military perspective, the US bases on Wake Island and the Philippines, and Allied bases on Singapore and Hong Kong (among others), allowed the US (which would undoubtedly use Allied bases) to enforce its embargo militarily by interdicting any Japanese merchant shipping carrying resources along the eastern coast of Asia, should Japan successfully acquire those resources. And by 1941, the US was firmly supporting the British, French, and Dutch. The mere chance that the US would interfere with Japanese plans to conquer resource-rich areas in Southeast Asia would put paid to the Japanese war in China and any dreams they had of Empire. The US might, for example, occupy the Dutch East Indies itself (as it had recently occupied Iceland) to foil Japanese expansion. That was unacceptable.

So the Japanese, ideologically committed to continue conquering China, decided to gamble. The attack on Pearl Harbor was part of a coordinated operation, meticulously timed to enable the Japanese to seize the resources they need. As far as possible across different time zones (the Pacific has many), they attacked simultaneously Pearl, the Philippines, Wake Island, and stepped off on campaigns to seize Singapore and Hong Kong (successfully). The attack on Pearl was not the prelude to invasion, as were their other targets, but to damage the US Navy sufficiently to prevent interference for enough time for Japan to consolidate and present any US response with a fortified, defended Pacific and a superior, built-up Japanese Navy. They knew that it would provoke war with the US, but they intended to seize and exploit the resources they desperately needed.

The idea that the US would then decide it wasn’t worth warring against a peer adversary was present, certainly, but was viewed by the Japanese as a sort of “best-case scenario.” The Japanese Navy brass knew they were kicking off the fight of their lives. But, again ideologically, they almost universally welcomed it as a sort of glorious undertaking, as fascism and militarism dictated. The attack that included the bombing of Pearl Harbor was not, in their eyes, an infallible recipe for success but the only way they could possible win—and many expressed predictions that they might not, but nevertheless were excited and inspired to try. In their minds, the shame of failing to conquer China was worse than annihilation at the hands of an obviously superior foe.

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Posted by /u/MrsHayashi

Annie was an amazing and strong woman and I am very lucky I got to know her the last few years of her life! She spent a lot of time in her later years doing talks about her experiences during the bombing to spread awareness of what happened as well as her strong activism again nuclear weapons.

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Posted by /u/0ttr

In short, it's because the depictions are inaccurate. In the book "A House Full of Females", Laurel Thatcher Ulrich's text on LDS polygamy, particularly from a woman's point of view, (she's also LDS) begins with an LDS women's conference on women's suffrage and how Utah was one of the early proponents of such (second only to Wyoming in the US). But she also notes that other women suffragists were uncomfortable with the LDS Women's movement being a part of their movement. To be sure, just as there are good and bad marriages today, there were good and bad polygamous marriages and Ulrich's book has anecdotes as evidence of both.

But there are plenty of stories about LDS members being "polite and moral" as you describe today (except back in the 19th century) while the main stream portrayal in the American East was the vilification as you describe. Again, Ulrich points out that as the LDS members trekked West after Joseph Smith was killed in Illinois, certain Missourians (the state of Missouri had violently expelled the church members) would sell them their worst quality grain (along the Iowa border) because they specifically knew the "Mormons" wouldn't retaliate.

Thomas L. Kane, a military officer in the US was a known friend of the LDS church including Brigham Young personally. While it is understood that Kane did not personally support the LDS polygamous practices, he became celebrated amongst the LDS members by supporting the church's right to exist and intervening at key times, such as during the Utah War, to prevent a potential escalation. He had positive views of the church and its members in general and places in Utah, such as Kane County were named after him. Thus the ideal that the LDS members were "fiends" or "kidnappers" has credible refutation from the point of view of people like Kane and others. Though it is true that LDS missionaries proselyted to anyone who would listen, which did at times lead to the feeling that they "poached" other church's members, given that up until the early 20th century, most people, upon converting to be LDS, would make plans to emigrate to Utah.

In terms of today's view of LDS members, after the church was forced to abandon polygamy, a process which took multiple declarations from the church leadership to fully end, and especially after Utah gained its statehood, the LDS church leadership made conscious efforts to integrate itself into American society and culture. Today the LDS church seeks to work and cooperate with other religious leaders when and where it can. This lead to the stereotype of the typical LDS member you decribe today. Armand Mauss, also and LDS member, describes this transformation in his text, "The Angel and the Beehive".

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Posted by /u/SubiSforzando

Nah, that's the very first thing that happens in the movie. It's not meant to be a secret, because the movie wasn't trying to shock anyone with the outcome. It wants you to know what you're in for right away. (The story isn't important for the fact that he dies, it's about how he gets there.)

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Posted by /u/WartimeHotTot

Yes, but it wasn’t as clear as I’d like it to have been, which is why I asked for further clarification. I’m familiar with the concept of Soviet troops being shot for desertion or retreat. I was not clear on the concept of a force dedicated to this purpose. My understanding had always been that it was the responsibility of the guy next to you or the CO to carry this out. So I wanted to know exactly what Zhukov believed was the common understanding of a “barrier troop,” an understanding that he then clarified/debunked.

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Posted by /u/trismagestus

Sounds like a tactic directly from Hannibal. Don't attack the main armies and towns directly, harass the countryside until you draw them out, then retreat until you can set up an ambush.

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Posted by /u/GentlewomenNeverTell

Not a historian. My old boss told me stories of fishing for seagulls as a boy during this period in Hakodate. He and his friends would tie fish to a string abs bait a seagull. They'd then kill it and roast it on the beach. Said they tasted horrible but that was the only food source.

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Posted by /u/No_Stick_1101

To make it more clear, they were a barrier against retreat mostly through exhortation and some intimidation thrown in. They rarely (but not never) machine gunned their own retreating Soviet combatants, and would try to blunt enemy offensive actions enough to get the boys rallied back toward the front.

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Posted by /u/Ipluvien

But Zhukov does it in his short answer part:

So, in addressing the issue of barrier troops, I feel that there are three levels to the question, each of which I will try to answer:

  • Did they exist? (Yes)

  • What did they do, and did that actually include machine-gunning anyone trying to retreat? (Stop desertion, but exceptionally rarely)

  • Is “Enemy at the Gates”, specifically, an accurate portrayal of them, and the supply situation of the Red Army? (No)

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Posted by /u/legal_opium

Yep it was a war of silver. The downfall of china came not from opium itself but from trying to prohibition the trade which led to profits exploding even higher and even more silver flowing out and a large chunk of the country rebelling against the tyranny of prohibition.

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Posted by /u/not_that_united

Barefoot Gen is another semi-autobiographical work and depicts very similar famine and orphans nearing starvation hanging around public areas. Like Grave of the Fireflies, there's some fictionalized elements, but the author has similarly indicated that most of the story comes directly from his own childhood experiences.

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Posted by /u/WartimeHotTot

I’ve never heard of the term “barrier troops,” and Comrade Marshal Zhukov seems to take it for granted that we know what is being referred to by this term. Is this a “barrier” against the opposing army or a barrier against their own troops at the front?

Can someone give a quick definition of what is meant by this, a sort of primer so I can better understand his response right out of the gates?

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